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Honda future sports car model plans

In our TOV/TOVA forums, one forumer talked about the current state of sporty models development by Honda. According to him, Honda stopped all Sports car designs and development in Dec 2008. It wasn't re-started until 2011 which is why we will not see any new sports cars until 2014 (in the form of the new Honda Beat). 

During those three 'dark' years (2008 - 2010) only unofficial side projects which Honda R&D engineers dabbled in on their own time was the mid-engine NSX and Beat.

There is a further suggestion that Honda have been testing an Euro Gen9 Civic type R for a while but the chassis(torsen suspension) couldn't meet performance goals due to the use of torsion beam suspension in the rear. Thus Honda now knows a half ass Civic Type-R will not work...the people won't buy it (this has what long time hardcore Honda fanatics have been telling Honda for the past few years of course). So they have to wait for the Gen10 civic (and start all over again).

The summary of sports cars that Honda is supposed to be working on at the moment, all in the research stage, are as below:

2015 NSX $ 150,000 range

2016 Baby NSX $ 75,000 range

In 2008 Honda was working on a baby GT HSV V6 Rwd Coupe and roadster.
The design team is working on it again.

2015 CTR 1.6L I4 TURBO 280hp

for Europe

2016 American CTR(Prelude)

Using Euro drivetrain with 4ws
most likely coupe

2016 Japan CTR(CR-Z) 

Note that other than the new Beat which is supposed to come out in 2014, the earliest that a hardcore sports model is scheduled to be launched is 2015. This means that for next year (2013), the only sporty car in Honda's lineup will continue to be the CR-Z, albeit now in MMC form and with a 12hp boost in power.

Three interesting questions from the CEO speech on September 21st.

Honda has published a video of the presentation by Honda CEO Ito-san on September 21st on its worldwide site at world.honda.com. The link is at http://world.honda.com/news/2012/c120921CEO-Speech/video01/index.html. TOV and 'Honda Fan' contributor Daniel, after watching the entire 1hour video, heard a rather interesting question from the Q&A session after the speech that we have not seen reported elsewhere.


One japanese journalist from Reuters asked Ito three points:
1) How well do you think the Beat replacement will do in the market? sales?
2) There is quite a stretch between the Beat and the NSX, can you say something about the ground in between?
3) You talked about the development of a CTR for Europe, are there any chances such car would be marketed as well elsewhere? Japan ?

Summarizing Ito-san's answers:
1) From previous experience we know that sales numbers won't turn any heads. Yet we are willing to do it because we simply feel there should be such a car, and I'm hoping that customers will prove me right.
2) Indeed there is a big gap, in which for example should fit the European CR-Z
3) We are hearing the voices calling for such a car in other markets as well, and we will definitely listen to them. However, our first and utmost priority right now remains focused on the three models I mentioned today, and in the mid-ground the European CTR.

Daniel also wanted to highlight the following cavert: "I listened to the session in Japanese, so I may have missed some stuff. Those aren't intended to be word by word translations, but simply writing in my own words what I understood from his answers. For those that want to try in English, (this question) is the before last question, (almost at) the end." 

Note : Corrected wrong info on the journalist who asked the question.